and in nations and among people where democracy doesn't exist in their religion or in their experience, it is an extremely difficult thing to do. jon: marvin, i understand you can hear me now. >> i'm back. jon: good. >> i just answered his question. >> thank you very much. [laughter] jon: i have one for you, marvin, you you were saying the press should have been more skeptical. you had the director of the cia saying weapons of mass destruction a slam dunk in iraq, you had saddam apparently telling his own generals that he had weapons of mass destruction. you had colin powell going before the u.n. general assembly and saying, look, they've got all the parts and pieces they need to build weapons of mass destruction. how much more skeptical was the press supposed to be? >> well, you are setting up the bush administration's case for war in iraq. and the united states went to war in iraq. congress supported the president's policy on going to war, and the media supported it what this all adds up to, however, since it didn't work out that way, was that somebody got it drastically wrong. ameri